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A ketogenic diet will reverse T2 beetus in almost all cases. T2 is a disease of diet. You can slightly reduce carbs and slightly reduce the diabetes. Or you can cut carbs to 20-50 grams a day and completely eliminate the diabetes. Metabolically, there is not much difference in a banana, piece of bread, and a cookie.

Intermittent fasting also keeps insulin low for the better part of the day. The combination of the two will completely fix T2 diabetes. Had a long talk with my doctor about this in case you question my opinion.


You’re not reversing it, just compensating. It’s like saying your car burns too much gas and you “fixed it” by only driving it every other day.
 
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Take a gander at this chart and ask yourself why? The primary answer should be obvious. The solution? A little more difficult, but if a few thousand/million years of human beings could figure it out and do it, so can we.



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You’re not reversing it, just compensating. It’s like saying your car burns too much gas and you “fixed it” by only driving it every other day.

That's about as poor an analogy as ever there was.

With Type 2 diabetes: If you reduce blood glucose to the levels your insulin production can handle you've eliminated the diabetes. For many people this can be accomplished simply by correcting a bad diet. For others: More extreme measures may be necessary.

It's the same with weight loss. Some people have higher metabolisms than others, so they can lose fat, or keep the fat off in the first place, more easily than those with lower metabolisms.

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Take a gander at this chart and ask yourself why? The primary answer should be obvious.

Increased consumption of carbs--particularly simple and processed carbs, mainly, as well as other highly-processed foods--which often contain no end of additives.




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I should have added that the solution is quite easy to explain, but more difficult to achieve as changing any behavioral habit is difficult.

But, you are mostly correct ensigmatic, and it ain't rocket surgery. Stop eating shit food, grow your own if you are able...buy farmer's market stuff if you're not, and get off your ass.

We don't need to delve into the biochemistry of it at all. Just eat good natural foods and move. That's really all there is to it.

Eat fat and enjoy it. Eat sugar and enjoy it. Eat salt and enjoy it. Eat vegetables and enjoy them.
Eat fruit and enjoy them. Three meals a day...and move.

Type II diabetes is (mostly)entirely controllable with lifestyle changes.

And don't get me started on the continual lowering of standards for diagnosis. Ten years ago, A1C levels were 7, now they are down in the 5s? Really? Why do you suppose that is? Hmm?

Bottom line: Do what your parents and grandparents did and you'll be just fine until you die...which you are supposed to do anyway.

BTW, mine is 5.1 and I'd wager that in a year or two I'll be labeled "pre-diabetic" as well. Roll Eyes

Pass the eggs fried in lard, bacon, and coffee with cream and sugar. You can have your kale salad laced with metformin.


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You’re not reversing it, just compensating. It’s like saying your car burns too much gas and you “fixed it” by only driving it every other day.

That's about as poor an analogy as ever there was.

With Type 2 diabetes: If you reduce blood glucose to the levels your insulin production can handle you've eliminated the diabetes. For many people this can be accomplished simply by correcting a bad diet. For others: More extreme measures may be necessary.


It probably wasn't my best analogy, but I can assure you I've done worse. Smile

I guess what I was trying to say (and you also did), is that the condition of high blood glucose can be controlled with dietary modifications, but the underlying cause (inability to process carbs adequately) won't go away. As soon as you go back to the old eating habits, da' beetus will be back.
 
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As a guy who just got a $27,000 bill for two days Observation and a number of tests, I'd be sure to keep an eye on my kidneys, my potassium level, and my carb intake. I bounce around 6.9 to 7.4 depending on my attention to my diet.

What sent me to ER was a new drug (Jardiance) introduced to supplement my Metformin. Apparently dehydrated to the point I had shortness of breathe, fluctuating BP, and light headedness every time I stuck a tee in the ground.

Got checked for a pulmonary embolism and heart issues. It ended up being high potassium from the dehydration.


I am leery of anecdotal evidence, natural supplements, and doctors who don't look at the entire picture. I now have a kidney specialist and might add an endocrinologist
 
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