When I went to the academy 3.5 years ago I got a P229 DAK in 9mm. I was very impressed with it, so impressed in fact I decided to buy a P229 DAK in .40 S&W. The reason is because i wanted more firepower, and also I can reused my old duty holsters, off duty holsters, magazine holders, etc. I took it home today and decided to dry fire it and the hammer would not fall. I thought I bought a lemon. Then I put in the magazine and it fired ok. So I figure it must be a magazine disconnect.

when I went thru the academy they said Sigs doesn't have this magazine disconnect. So when I bought it I assumed the same. WHEN did they start putting in the magazine disconnect. I'm not comfortable with it and would like it removed.

Anybody know how to do it? I did search through this forum with no success.

Some SIGs have the disconnect feature, evidently as a result of being produced that way to satisfy specific contract requirements.

Unfortunately, to convert requires removing the part(s) that enables the feature and replacing it/them with another. I've read of attempts by various people to find the part (basically a spacer, AFAIK) that disables the feature, but no successes. Reportedly even SIG doesn't have them—or at least they claim they don't. It couldn't hurt, of course, to contact the factory to see if they're still being unhelpful.

Welcome to the forum, BTW.

I (temporarily) traded for a 229 with a mag safety about a year ago. (I say temporarily because the seller did not tell me about this evil feature until I discovered it when the gun was shipped to my FFL.)

I called SIG to see if they sold a conversion kit back to the standard SIG configuration. The bad news is they do not. In looking at the frame, the factory milled a section of frame away to install the mag safety. It is a small part and a spring. The tension of the spring makes the part moves forward and prevents the sear (or the safety; I can't remember which) from working normally. Once a mag is inserted into the magwell, the mag safety part is pushed to the rear and allows the sear/safety to function as designed.

It looked to me pretty simple to just grind the pointed ear off the mag safety that normally blocks the gun from firing. I asked SIG if I could buy a replacement mag safety part (in case I tried to modify the part I had, but messed it up), and they said NO! The only way to have the part replaced is to get out your credit card and send the gun back to SIG. So, my choices were to (1) modify the part and the gun myself, (2) try to find a gunsmith that would do it for me, (3) live with the mag safety, although this prevented you from dry firing the gun unless a mag was inserted into the magwell, or (4) return the gun to the seller.

Long story short, I had a nice discussion with the seller and got him to take the gun back since he did not disclose to me beforehand that the gun had a mag safety. SIG confirmed to me that probably less than 1 percent of its pistols had this feature. So, due to the rarity of a mag safety on a P-series SIG, I did not at the time know to ask about it. For the seller not to tell me about it, however, was like buying a new BMW from a dealer, only to discover that it only ran on propane when you got it home.

In the future, I will ALWAYS ask the seller if the gun has a mag safety. You cannot see this feature/detriment if the gun is assembled. It is only visable looking down or at the right side of the frame.

Thanks for welcoming me to the forum. I've been reading here for a good three year and this is my first post.

As for this problem of mine, I'm going to talk to seller and see what can be done about it. Then I will talk to the range guys, maybe they have some experience about it.

I did have a look at the mechanism. Look like if you push down on it (like a magazine would if it was inserted all the way it) you'll be able to pull the trigger all the way. There's also a spring that I can see. When you push it and let go, it comes back (because of the spring). I BELIEVE that if this spring is removed, the magazine disconnect would stop working...just a theory. Think about it, let's say that somehow during normal shooting, the spring did break. I'm sure the engineers at Sig designed it in such a way so that the gun would still be able to fire, magazine or not.

As I said in my earlier post, the spring pushes the other part forward, blocking the safety from tripping the sear and allowing the gun to fire normally. If you remove the spring, the other part will slide back and forth in the channel cut into the frame by SIG. So, sometimes the gun may fire without the mag and sometimes it may not. IMO, removing the spring is NOT the proper way to disable the magazine safety.

I found this thread on the forum. http://sigforum.com/eve/forums...001012151#1001012151 It shows the part and the spring used in the mag safety. To properly disable the mag safety, leave the spring in place, but remove the small "ear" on the bottom of the part. Removing this ear allows the safety to trip the sear and allows the gun to fire normally without a mag being inserted into the gun.

I heard that Sig did this for CA. Ruger had to add it to there MKII in order to sell the MK's in CA. The mag works but it took a gun with a good trigger to one of the worst, SA ever made.

I never have liked them due to the fact most all impact the trigger quality. I removed them on my BHP and Ruger MKIII.

Is the mag disconnect only on the DA/SA model? Or is on other models too.

mine is on a DAK. anybody knows how to remove/disable it? I need step by step instructions.

What a shitty feature. Those are a good way to get yourself killed in a struggle.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
What a shitty feature. Those are a good way to get yourself killed in a struggle.

Unless you're struggling hands on with someone who is trying to get your primary carry pistol.

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I when to the place where I bought my 229 and told the armoror there about the magazine disconnect. He was surprise about it, said that last time he heard about that was years & years ago. He told me he will contact Sig for a replacement block. A week later my pistol came back without the disconnect. It was that simple. He told me you just switch out the "block".