I posted this in the general sig forum here, but I probably should have posted in this forum instead.

I want to buy an X5.

I have a couple of questions, and I'd like to initiate a discussion with someone who might have some answers for me.

One of my questions is this:

Would it be possible for a really good gunsmith to modify the safety so that it would be operable regardless of hammer position? From what I have observed, you can only flick the safety on when the hammer is cocked.

Thanks in advance, guys.

I have a X-5 L1 9mm, and my safety can be put in the on or off position regardless of the hammer position.

Mike

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Originally posted by mwp4:
I have a X-5 L1 9mm, and my safety can be put in the on or off position regardless of the hammer position.

Mike

I remember a discussion a while ago that some X5s will let the safety be activated with the hammer in either position.

On those that will not allow the safety to be engaged with the hammer down the removal of the tab blocking the movement would be possible.

With this modification the safety would block the movement of the trigger bar but would likely not block the movement of the sear any longer.

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Would it be possible for a really good gunsmith to modify the safety so that it would be operable regardless of hammer position?

Thanks in advance, guys.

I would say more possible than probable.

Sounds like a liability that few would want...i'm not a smith however...and it would void your warranty.

I guess my question would be why?

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Originally posted by mwp4:
I have a X-5 L1 9mm, and my safety can be put in the on or off position regardless of the hammer position.

Mike

The one I looked at was a step down from the L1 (no adjustable trigger), and it would not allow the safety to be flicked on if the hammer were not cocked.

I wonder what the mechanical differences are?

Thanks.

Not to be a smart ass but why would you want to do this?

Honestly, I am not sure. The X-5 is the first semi-auto pistol with an exposed hammer that interests me. Maybe it is because in my mind I don't want to be able to fire the gun until I deliberately flick off a safety. It's more psychological than anything else, I guess.

Your gun will not fire unless you tell it to or create a situation that is unsafe. Do you carry this X5 for PP? If you want I will get a look at my L1 and try to figure it out for you. I don't think it will be a hard mod.

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Originally posted by peppilepew 226:
Your gun will not fire unless you tell it to or create a situation that is unsafe. Do you carry this X5 for PP? If you want I will get a look at my L1 and try to figure it out for you. I don't think it will be a hard mod.

That's great and that's why I posed the question...I was hoping to find someone who knows...and you be he!

I'd love to know what to have done, because...(shhhhh) I have the chance to pick up a new X-5 "competition" at a really good price...(don't ask!), and if the safety can be "fixed" to be like yours, I'll buy it.

Again...thanks!

I have a p220 super match that the safety works in both modes. My X5 does the same. I think removing some material from the trigger bar might do it. You might order a trigger bar and set of safety levers for the L1. I am not a gun smith and strongly recommend you have a qualified smith do the mod. When altering safeties one gets into legal liability situations if an accident happens. If you pass on the gun then a friend of mine might be interested. Is it 9mm or .40? I paid 2043.00 new for my .40 about 5 months ago. I wish I had waited for the X6 series. I still love this L1 and am happy I went for it. Good luck. Parts for these are expensive so try a different trigger bar first.

It's a 9mm.

I don't know a smith I would trust with that kind of work, if that is the answer.

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Originally posted by macbooker:

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Originally posted by peppilepew 226:
Your gun will not fire unless you tell it to or create a situation that is unsafe. Do you carry this X5 for PP? If you want I will get a look at my L1 and try to figure it out for you. I don't think it will be a hard mod.

That's great and that's why I posed the question...I was hoping to find someone who knows...and you be he!

I'd love to know what to have done, because...(shhhhh) I have the chance to pick up a new X-5 "competition" at a really good price...(don't ask!), and if the safety can be "fixed" to be like yours, I'll buy it.

Again...thanks!

Here is a picture of an X5 Competition that cannot be cocked with the hammer down. The arrows point to the protrusion on the hammer and the protrusion on the left safety that interfere to prevent the movement of the safety with the hammer down.



The comment that I heard when were discussing this is that the X5s that can move the safety with the hammer down is that the protrusion on the hammer was not there.

So... you could try to buy the hammer without the protrusion or you could remove the protrusion.

There is no need to modify the right hand safety or the trigger bar. There is no movement of the trigger bar when the hammer is cocked vs down on the SAO.