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Freethinker |
Thank you, lbj, for your information on the issue (and I finally decided it must have been you who told me), and posting the full background here.
Congratulations, BTW, on your success with your "older" but sweet P228. I still remember cringing when it was on the ground at the TR "Fighting Pistol" class. “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy |
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Yeah and the exterior still has the battle scars that testify to it being tossed and dashed up the rocks, kinda like the Wreck of the Hesperus.
----------------- I'm a regular Claire Voyant without the dress. |
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And it's references like this that keep me coming back to the Forum. Thanks lbj (and sigfreund for the info). ---------------------- "We've made work the enemy. Essentially we took the nobility out of it and replaced it with this vague sense of drudgery." -- Mike Rowe, quoted in the WSJ |
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Wreck of the Hesperus, the name Ulysses, some of these bucks around here probably have no idea what we're talking about.
And that's OK and maybe as it should be. ----------------- I'm a regular Claire Voyant without the dress. |
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Well, I'm just a young buck myself but I know Henry's work and certainly understand the reference. I have a couple like that myself. The difference being that mine are still intact - just wearing her scars. I admit lbj you - and others here - must rejoice in surprising me of your knowledge and experiences..... -- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. http://www.nm-ccw.com/ http://www.handgunlaw.us/ http://www.cafepress.com/nm_ccw Steve Aikens |
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Freethinker |
Possibly of further interest.
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lbj,
Greetings. I've got a line on a NIB 228 "manufactured in 2001, shipped early 2002". How can I tell if any of the innards need upgrading (new redesigned trigger bar spring plus the newer mainspring, mainspring seat and shorter trigger bar). Can I tell by the grips? Don't have a pic, and the answer to this will not sway my purchase. Probably call SIG with the serial number and ask? Take care.
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http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/ShowProductDetails.asp...oryid=0&productid=31
I've been reading about the need to replace the recoil spring at 5000 rounds, and I am almost there. Seems like I need a main spring too (based on the numbers, not a failure yet). But the kit aboove doesn't seem to come with a main spring. Can someone in the know give me some advice here? I've never replaced anything on my gun. It's about 2 months old and I am about 4500 rounds in. So far it's been virtually flawless. It failed to lock the slide back twice one day when I first got it (less than 500 rounds), and last week, I had a FTE. Otherwise perfect. It's a P226 if it matters. Thanks!! |
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You do not need to change your mainspring. Just swap out the recoil spring and you're good to go.
Mainspring = hammer spring (and if you look above) it will last well over 40,000 rounds. ---------- Yes, as a matter of fact I do own a gun. Free Classic P-Series Sig Armorer services on Long Island and around the NYC area. |
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Freethinker |
40,000 rounds is what lbj finally got from SIG for the mainspring.
I suppose I should go back an edit my first post for everyone who doesn't read the entire thread. “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy |
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OK, I am going to go with the kit. I swear I read 5000 rounds on the mainspring someplace. Maybe it was already editted to 40K. Thanks. |
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sigfreund, as always, thank you for sharing your knowledge. As for mag rattle; other than slapping the sides and back of the mag against your palm, one other technique I've used is when using a magazine loader, such as the HKS, is after loading the first few rounds, double plunge after each successive loaded round. You can hear and feel the rounds settle in. It's usually effective in mitigating the issue. __________________________________________________________________________________________ "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions; they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams 1770 |
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Good information...Sticky Request.
MODIECAST SIGS - Yes, I have a few... |
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I got two new recoil springs in the mail today so I swapped the old one out. I was very surprised to see how much shorter the old spring was after 4750 rounds through the gun. I may actually be swapping the spring again closer to 3000 rounds next time.
This was a good thread. |
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AFter only less than 1000 rounds on a new p220 carry, my recoil sping has lost about 3/8" in overall length and the center strand is out about 3/16". This doesn't sound normal - is it?
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As you can tell by other posts, the spring will "settle" a bit with use. The center strand does come out a bit and is perfectly normal. It's recommended that the end that has the center strang coming out is put on the guide rod first.
---------- Yes, as a matter of fact I do own a gun. Free Classic P-Series Sig Armorer services on Long Island and around the NYC area. |
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Thanks. But how far does that center strand come out before it is time to replace. |
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Freethinker |
It's recommended the recoil spring be replaced if the center strand moves out from the rest a quarter turn. In my experience that doesn't happen very often; usually the strand moves out to a point and stops.
FWIW, only the recoil spring for the 357 SIG/40 S&W P229 has a central strand. All other multi-wire SIG recoil springs consist of three wires wound around a central axis. “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy |
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I was reading about the new 220 takedown lever and can't find the thread now, but I thought it had a lower round count replacement suggestion than the 20,000 in this thread.
If I send in a used stamped slide 220, unknown round count, to SIG for a service plan, or GGI for their action cleanup package, should I install the new takedown lever? zzz |
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I was kicking around taking the course but SIG is just too close to spend the money for a course when I could drop it off at the factory. Plus several club members are SIG armorers or employees. Hell, my friend's wife has been building them for twelve years.
Richard Scalzo Epping, NH |
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