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To me the real issue is credibility. If the armorer felt there was an issue, having a conversation with Bruce would help resolve things. Even better if the armorer and Bruce could talk.

No matter what I think, the issue is in the mind of the person carrying. Have they gotten things figured out.


That's a pretty astute thought; however, communication was an issue- as I mentioned in my original post.


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He mentioned something about the sear drag while being released from the hammer.


This doesn't make sense. Did he take it apart and inspect it? What did he find? Did he shoot it?


He said that the sear dragged while being released from the hammer because the overtravel stop was set too short. I am not a gunsmith, but when one who is responsible for the lifesaving equipment of high risk folks makes a recommendation, I pay attention.


How long ago did this discussion/inspection with your FBI gunsmith friend occur?


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Most relevant, else I would d not have inquired.

The relating of your "communication" is not really very clear.

Perhaps the issue with failed communication is with you given the vague and ambiguous relating of same.




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Most of the police armorers I know have zero experience


The Armorers Course does not make you a gunsmith. They never claimed it would. They can inspect and replace parts. that's it.


Couple that with the fact that the Feeb hasn't seen a P Series pistol in more than a dozen years. Yeah. Just can't get real worked up over it myself.


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I have the P-PAK that I installed myself. I think it's a better way to modify the action then honing the stock parts including the sear. I probably have 5K with no problems through it.


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I have the P-PAK that I installed myself. I think it's a better way to modify the action then honing the stock parts including the sear. I probably have 5K with no problems through it.


Ah, choices Smile, At $325 or so, the P-PAK is a pricey but doubtless good quality way to go, I don't care for MIM parts (but don't want to start that argument here).

That money could more that pay for a quality action job at TheSigArmorer (no affiliation and have not had work done there, though I've seen Burke's work).

I have the fittings, fixtures, and machine shop to do my own "hobby gunsmithing". I use stock parts (some of them MIM) and make some of the parts as well. That's also a good way to go, but it takes a big investment in tooling to do it right. Here's one example, a hammer pivot "cam" on a P229 DA/SA that both helps smooth things (well, a tiny bit) and eliminates DA pretravel.



 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by leam:
To me the real issue is credibility. If the armorer felt there was an issue, having a conversation with Bruce would help resolve things. Even better if the armorer and Bruce could talk.

No matter what I think, the issue is in the mind of the person carrying. Have they gotten things figured out.


BTW- this is a full time, professional Gunsmith for Bu weapons. Not a LEO who is an Armorer with a parts kit.


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OP, I've had several pistols optimized by Mr. Gray and his team. The improvements have been outstanding in each and every case. They work with you to identify your objective and have never disappointed.

I generally prefer a competition set up with a very defined trigger break, short reset and shortened uptake.

In the case of both my P226 and P2009 their character has dramatically and favorably improved. My confidence and performance with the pistols was and is noteworthy and the improvements have stayed true for many years now.

Had you asked about the P7 or the 1911....the improvements were similarly outstanding.

I'm currently saving my shekels to send in my P229.

Once upon a time i foolishly sent a pistol for some very expensive work by another gunsmith that had a nice write up in one of the popular magazines. It was a horrible experience. The pistol finally was returned to me in a miserable state. Our local gunsmith wouldn't touch it claiming it was beyond repair. Mr. Gray was kind enough to restore and improve upon that pistol. There is no one else i would ever send my pistols to.

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I hope this helps.

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