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I think she should place that "No Weapons Allowed" on her front door, it will make her home much safer. I hope she writes an article after the local thugs see the sign and figure easy target. She can wave her sign at them as they plunder her safe little home. Chris


I seriously wonder how long her front door will be hanging on its hinges if she hangs a sign out on the front yard facing the street that says "This House is a Gun-Free Zone".

I couldn't care less what her house rules are, but stupid isn't strong enough a word to describe somebody who under a real byline writes a piece like that...


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I think she should place that "No Weapons Allowed" on her front door, it will make her home much safer. I hope she writes an article after the local thugs see the sign and figure easy target. She can wave her sign at them as they plunder her safe little home. Chris

I seriously wonder how long her front door will be hanging on its hinges if she hangs a sign out on the front yard facing the street that says "This House is a Gun-Free Zone".

I couldn't care less what her house rules are, but stupid isn't strong enough a word to describe somebody who under a real byline writes a piece like that...

Ahh, not to worry. After all, the police are only a phone call away... Roll Eyes
 
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I see her point. She wants to know what her rights are as a property owner. And how she would best go about protecting her rights.

As a property owner myself, I expect that nothing illegal will brought onto my property...like drugs. But guns are not illegal, so it's not that easy. She wants to put the burden on the visitor to declare the gun, it seems. That I disagree with.

If she is that opposed to guns in her home, then she needs to get over the awkwardness of coming out and asking folks to leave their guns in the car.



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I see her point. She wants to know what her rights are as a property owner. And how she would best go about protecting her rights.

As a property owner myself, I expect that nothing illegal will brought onto my property...like drugs. But guns are not illegal, so it's not that easy. She wants to put the burden on the visitor to declare the gun, it seems. That I disagree with.

If she is that opposed to guns in her home, then she needs to get over the awkwardness of coming out and asking folks to leave their guns in the car.


That is essentially the case, tho to put this up in a public forum {her article} demonstrates a total lack of common sense.

Two phone calls would suffice for the answer if she really has questions about her personal protections involving firearms i her home and their potential misuse; 1} her homeowners insurance provider 2} an attorney.


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I'd say she knows exactly what she is doing. She wants support for laws that would require gun toters to declare themselves before entering private property.



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I'd say she knows exactly what she is doing. She wants support for laws that would require gun toters to declare themselves before entering private property.


Yeah, you are probably. right.


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All of her "community discussion" BS is lib speak for "we need a law" so I think Paragon has nailed it.

She wants it to be illegal to carry on private property without permission, rather than legal, unless properly notified by the property owner otherwise.

The general rule today is that it is trespassing to enter her property without permission, but once you have permission like "come over for a playdate", anything legal that you have or that you do is presumptively ok. She wants to shift that burden by having a "community discussion."

I agree with Monkey. Moonbat.



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the number of Americans with a permit to carry a concealed weapon was a staggering 11.1 million

11.1 million out of a population of 324 million is "staggering?" That's a mere 3.4 percent of the population. Does this woman even understand numbers?




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Ahh, not to worry. After all, the police are only a phone call away... Roll Eyes


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the number of Americans with a permit to carry a concealed weapon was a staggering 11.1 million

11.1 million out of a population of 324 million is "staggering?" That's a mere 3.4 percent of the population. Does this woman even understand numbers?


It is staggering, and I am appalled. It should be much higher.

Come on people, what are you waiting for?


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Delusional liberal brought home from safe hospital to gun free safe home. Gun free makes your home unsafe some criminals know how to read and canfind out from her article where her safe home is, good luck. She, her husband and kid are victims in the making.


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I liken this to a visitor coming into my house and starts smoking cigarettes, farting and cussing. That's not illegal either. But it's my home and I expect you to respect my rules. If you don't like it, leave.

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All of her "community discussion" BS is lib speak for "we need a law" so I think Paragon has nailed it.

She wants it to be illegal to carry on private property without permission, rather than legal, unless properly notified by the property owner otherwise.

The general rule today is that it is trespassing to enter her property without permission, but once you have permission like "come over for a playdate", anything legal that you have or that you do is presumptively ok. She wants to shift that burden by having a "community discussion."

I agree with Monkey. Moonbat.



And in her classic liberal stupidity.... she says she can put up the sign denying the right to carry on her property but folks may ignore it. So let's have a law making you declare your gun at the door? `Cause nobody would ignore that, too? Dumb safe space liberal hippie douchbaggery


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I remember when my sister had her first child she swore that she would never buy him a toy gun. About 5 years later when I asked her about the purchase of a popgun for both my nephew AND his younger sister she stated that toy guns were a lot safer than her son running around with a sharpened stick yelling "bang". Quite simply, little boys will be little boys and little sisters want whatever toy their big brother is playing with.

So I can understand the concerns of the woman who wrote this article. Leave a handgun or rifle where a child can get to it and bad things can happen, especially if they are boys. Yeah, I'm sexist. So what? The two sexes are different and trying to deny that fact may be politically correct but it's also the epitome of stupid.

So what is the answer. For my mother the answer was to teach her sons how to shoot and how to handle firearms safely. BTW, my Dad pretty much worked from dawn to dusk and I only spent any real time with him on Sundays when I was a kid, so it was my Mom who took up a lot of the slack.

There is also the simply matter that Home Invasions are becoming more common and more violent. If that woman lives in the DC area she may find herself facing a Home Invader who doesn't give a damn about her No Guns policy, he'll take whatever he wants and many will kill everyone present just so there aren't any witnesses. If some knucklehead kicks in my front door the first thing I want him to see is me aiming my 300 Blackout right between his beady eyes.


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That is her choice, and I respect it. I reserve the right to throw anyone off my property for any reason.... no matter if it is silly or not.

I think she is making a foolish tactical error, and I hope it doesn't come back to haunt her... but it is her property.

That said, if I were acquainted with her, I wouldn't go to her house. I am REQUIRED to be armed off duty. REQUIRED....

So if she feels that strong then I would politely decline any invitation....





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I remember when my sister had her first child she swore that she would never buy him a toy gun. About 5 years later when I asked her about the purchase of a popgun for both my nephew AND his younger sister she stated that toy guns were a lot safer than her son running around with a sharpened stick yelling "bang". Quite simply, little boys will be little boys and little sisters want whatever toy their big brother is playing with.



One of my mom's friends was a hard-core hippie. Met her husband in the Peace Corps and had a tribal wedding over in some African nation.

Fast forward a bunch of years and they had three kids. All boys. In their highly enlightened household, all weapons were banished. However, the kids became experts at crafting very intricate and well-made facsimiles of various firearms. Some were similar to actual guns, others were copied from sci-fi movies. The parents tried their best, but ultimately were ineffective in preventing their boys from being boys.

Fast forward a few more years and one of their sons was a Marine Scout Sniper who took part in the initial push into Iraq.
 
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I remember when my sister had her first child she swore that she would never buy him a toy gun. About 5 years later when I asked her about the purchase of a popgun for both my nephew AND his younger sister she stated that toy guns were a lot safer than her son running around with a sharpened stick yelling "bang". Quite simply, little boys will be little boys and little sisters want whatever toy their big brother is playing with.



One of my mom's friends was a hard-core hippie. Met her husband in the Peace Corps and had a tribal wedding over in some African nation.

Fast forward a bunch of years and they had three kids. All boys. In their highly enlightened household, all weapons were banished. However, the kids became experts at crafting very intricate and well-made facsimiles of various firearms. Some were similar to actual guns, others were copied from sci-fi movies. The parents tried their best, but ultimately were ineffective in preventing their boys from being boys.

Fast forward a few more years and one of their sons was a Marine Scout Sniper who took part in the initial push into Iraq.


Letting little boys play with guns is a bad idea. They fake recoil and it is something that must be worked thru later during training. Causes flinch.

Elmer Keith condemned the practice and I agree with him. I got sloppy with my son and let him, and he had to work thru the recoil issue when he started shooting at age 6 or so.

I don't think he'll let his kids play with fake guns. They'll get real ones only, as soon as they can hold them. Under Adult Supervision of course.

I had guns around the ranch all the time, but then we had horses, chainsaws, 4-wheelers, fire pits, livestock drugs in the refrigerator and the odd bottle of whiskey, too, all of which can kill you if you are stupid.

As for guns, they were allowed to touch them, heck shoot them, any time they wanted to they just had to ask. and they did. And they got to.

They learned very young that guns and cars and sex and medicine and axes and knives have their place in God's great economy. But if you shuffle them about, there is a price to pay and you deserve to pay it if you do the shuffling.


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Wow! Lets all post signs on our homes saying we are defenseless! Lets all ban anything from coming into our home that can be used as or deemed a weapon! Good by kitchen knives, hammers, scissors, rolling pins, golf clubs etc. All one has to do for a gun safe home is to lock up all guns in a safe and TEACH you kids about gun safety and responsibility when they get old enough to understand.
 
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But let me follow that by saying that I do care what my children are exposed to and I certainly care what happens in my home. My curious children freely play in a home environment I have worked hard to ensure is safe. To that extent, I am adamant about keeping guns outside our doors.

My husband and I decided when our first son came home with us from the safe little hospital where everything was pastel and rubbery that we were going to keep all guns far away from our house. We’ve read the statistics on how many toddlers are killed (or kill others) by accidentally finding loaded guns. Since I am supposed to do everything in my power to keep life-threatening risks to my kids down, I figured keeping guns away from them was a good start.


1) No problem, she has the right to choose not to have guns in her house. Her house, her rules. I don't carry into private homes when I know or believe the owner would not want me to.

2) I hope she has removed buckets, bicycles, baseballs, skateboards, poisons, window blind cords, and numerous other objects from her home, too. Those objects are far more deadly to kids than guns. She sounds ignorant of the facts.

3) Leaving a gun unattended in a diaper bag is a really bad idea. Do concealed carry licensees do this often?

4) She lives in NY state. Is there really any legal ambiguity about being able to eject someone from her home whom she doesn't want there? She seems to think she is on legal thin ice.

5) She is scared of gun owners. She'd have another mom over with a child, or friends in for dinner, but if they are a gun owner she fears they will become belligerent if she asks them to leave and she fears they may use their gun on her. What an insulting moron she is.


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