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I'm starting to get quite a collection of S&W, Sig and Glock magazines. Most high capacity, some not. Some acquired years ago, others more recently.

Since we don't know what the Obama administration might do in the future Frown is there any reason to keep the magazine sales receipts to prove date of purchase? Problem is that since magazines don't have any identifing mark it makes it tough to really prove what was acquired when.

Maybe I'm making a big deal about nothing but I thought I would pose the question before possibly trashing the receipts.
 
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Since we don't know what the Obama administration might do in the future Frown is there any reason to keep the magazine sales receipts to prove date of purchase? Problem is that since magazines don't have any identifing mark it makes it tough to really prove what was acquired when.


If a hi-cap ban is enacted the way it was last time, magazines you possess BEFORE the ban are fine. Buying new ones becomes the problem. The government, in prosecuting you, would have to prove you bought a mag post-ban. Pretty much the only way to do that is to catch you in the act.

The alternative is a UK-style ban, where they simply become illegal to own. In that case receipts won't help you.



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What Tank said.
That, plus a sales receipt does not actually identify those individual mags, it will just say you bought X amount of X type of mags with no way of identifying those actual mags.


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IF they grandfather in the older hi-cap mags. Or they could do like FDR did with Gold -- no private ownership, period.



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IF they grandfather in the older hi-cap mags. Or they could do like FDR did with Gold -- no private ownership, period.


Let's not forget the "just compensation" clause. If they outlaw the magazines I expect that they will have to pay fair market value to get them.

Let's see now, you give me a written offer for $5000 each for mine, I give you a written offer for $5000 each for yours. Then we tie the whole thing up in federal court for a few years, forcing the government to pay the proven fair market value, as demonstrated by written purchase offers!


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Last time around (1994) manufacturers were required to stamp the date of manufacture on banned (large capacity) magazines. Get caught with a dated magazine (1994-2004) and you're an instant felon. I never heard of any prosecutions for simple possession, though, although I'm sure one or two happened. They went after the volume guys.


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IF they grandfather in the older hi-cap mags. Or they could do like FDR did with Gold -- no private ownership, period.


Let's not forget the "just compensation" clause. If they outlaw the magazines I expect that they will have to pay fair market value to get them.
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Let's not forget the "just compensation" clause. If they outlaw the magazines I expect that they will have to pay fair market value to get them.

Let's see now, you give me a written offer for $5000 each for mine, I give you a written offer for $5000 each for yours. Then we tie the whole thing up in federal court for a few years, forcing the government to pay the proven fair market value, as demonstrated by written purchase offers!


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Respectfully, good luck with that. First, the government will take your mag, cut you a check for 12$ each or so and tell you to have a go at the federal courts. You will then pay the 450$ filing fee for an action in a federal district court only to lose very quickly on a motion to dismiss. One written offer does not a reasonable value for the property make. People have tried this kind of thing with eminent domain seizures. The government will then move for you to pay its attorney fees and costs.

Be very careful when you file a court action against the United States Federal Government.

This is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer.

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My thoughts on this topic: Keep the receipts if you have them--they take up no room, and you MAY possibly need them 10 years down the road--if you are really concerned about this potential problem--take clear detailed date-imprinted pics of the mags together with the receipts--mail the pics to yourself in a sealed env to get a dated post-mark--and put the still-sealed package away in your safe-deposit box to hold onto forever as officially dated insurance if the problem ever arises--not 100% proof but as good as it gets for free!!
 
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