Oswego New York and firearms laws.

October 23, 2018, 07:34 AM

Pickle Rick

Syracuse area ( Oswego ). Is anyone familar with area and the firearms laws? Possible relocation. I did a bit of google research and In good old fasioned New York style nothing is clear. Thanks in advance, John

October 23, 2018, 07:49 AM

Gustofer

You won't get a permit in Onondaga County (Syracuse). A little more likely in Oswego County, much more likely in Jefferson, Lewis, or Oneida Counties.

October 23, 2018, 09:21 AM

SgtGold

quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
You won't get a permit in Onondaga County (Syracuse). A little more likely in Oswego County, much more likely in Jefferson, Lewis, or Oneida Counties.

Do you mean he won't get full carry? Unless you're a prohibited person you will be able to get a NYS pistol license, but it will be restricted to 'target/hunting' or the vary vague 'sportsman' catagory.

October 23, 2018, 10:50 AM

cee_Kamp

Most of the above mentioned counties have a system in place where you get training for the unrestricted carry license. Taking the unrestricted training class isn't a "guarantee" you will be issued a unrestricted pistol license but it gives the issuing official (usually the local county judge) better peace of mind that you won't go full Rambo. I took the class about a decade ago and received my unrestricted. Some counties require an interview with the judge. Some counties require an applicant write a letter to the judge. (which I did) And the county where I live now requires that you show them the certificate of completion for completing the unrestricted training class.
Here is the outfit that did the training I took.
http://www.safeinrochester.com/
By the time you have finished the process you will feel like your rights have been stomped on. But the process really isn't that bad and it's certainly better than it was 35 years ago.
And unrestricted carry is... Unrestricted carry!

October 23, 2018, 11:04 AM

More than the permit stuff, no mags over 10 rds and no pistol grips, flash hiders, bayonet lugs etc on semis. So with an AR, it has to be "Featureless."

October 23, 2018, 11:31 AM

RNshooter

As an ex-pat NYer living in a free state, now, I say "Don't". Unless you absolutely must, avoid living in NYS.
Any chance you can live in PA or Vermont and commute?

Bruce

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October 23, 2018, 12:25 PM

Ironmike57

You will freeze your nuts off in the winter!

October 23, 2018, 01:15 PM

feersum dreadnaught

quote:
Originally posted by Ironmike57:
You will freeze your nuts off in the winter!

Oswego? look up "lake effect snow"..

October 23, 2018, 01:40 PM

captain127

RN shooter is correct I escaped the liberal hell that is New York a few years ago and there is no job or amount of
Money to make it worth going back.
You can not possess a handgun without a permit which depending on county may take a year or more to obtain, and may not allow concealed carry. Each pistol must be transferred through a dealer and added by serial number to your permit. No mags over ten rounds no ar’s except in strange configuration or fixed magazine, all firearms transfers must go through a dealer, no clear written guidelines from state regarding firearms modifications regarding legality. Since the 2012 safe act people have been modifying AR’s to what as best as they can conclude, makes them legal via the law, but no one really knows for sure. People from free states have absolutely no idea how bad it is.

October 23, 2018, 05:56 PM

12GA

I think some clarification from the OP would be helpful. Are you referring to long guns, pistols or both? My friends and I all have unrestricted concealed carry pistol permits. Yes, we have to follow the hideous SAFE Act restrictions on magazine capacity etc but otherwise it’s not as bad in rural counties as it is downstate.

October 23, 2018, 06:04 PM

Pickle Rick

I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. Both long guns and pistols.

October 23, 2018, 06:11 PM

12GA

quote:
Originally posted by GotDogs:
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. Both long guns and pistols.

Familiarize yourself with this SAFE Act hideous legislation. It’s statewide and details the restrictions you will encounter moving to New York State. Otherwise, it’s been my experience that so long as you don’t have a criminal record, you won’t have trouble with the process of obtaining a concealed carry pistol permit in Upstate New York.

October 23, 2018, 06:16 PM

dewhorse

Lived in Fulton, just south of Oswego, it's a college town and not too bad....mind you it's been 19 years. My oldest was born in the hospital there.

I got my CCW there it was a very long process that included 4 character references and a letter from the Psych board and every handgun had to be added to my permit. That process was pretty easy, $10 and normally a week for the judge to sign it. Permits are lifetime permits though.

Oh....do you like snow, record for Oswego was 254".....and the wind off the lake has been known to blow people off their feet...

Pretty area though and with the finger lakes close as well as the water up north is one of the best fishing/huntings I have lived in.

October 23, 2018, 06:23 PM

apf383

Although I’m a downstater, Long Island, I would strongly recommend against moving to this liberal, dem, overtaxed, no gun rights for the average Joe, shithole. Unless you like freezing your ass off and shoveling cock deep show, I would think there are far better places for relocation. Nobody moves to NY. I cant wait to get out. Best of luck.

October 23, 2018, 06:38 PM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
As an ex-pat NYer living in a free state, now, I say "Don't". Unless you absolutely must, avoid living in NYS.
Any chance you can live in PA or Vermont and commute?

Bruce

Thats a hell of a commute from either place. Doable in a F-16. Oswego is indeed heavy snows area. North of Syracuse a ways. Best county in NY for gun owners is Jefferson, Rochester area. Still a long commute.

October 23, 2018, 06:42 PM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by dewhorse:
Lived in Fulton, just south of Oswego, it's a college town and not too bad....mind you it's been 19 years. My oldest was born in the hospital there.

I got my CCW there it was a very long process that included 4 character references and a letter from the Psych board and every handgun had to be added to my permit. That process was pretty easy, $10 and normally a week for the judge to sign it. Permits are lifetime permits though.

Oh....do you like snow, record for Oswego was 254".....and the wind off the lake has been known to blow people off their feet...

Pretty area though and with the finger lakes close as well as the water up north is one of the best fishing/huntings I have lived in.

Sure nough, a few years back, Fulton and Parish got a blanket 7 feet in 24 hours. Keep milk, bread, eggs, coffee and the like on hand.

October 23, 2018, 06:43 PM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by apf383:
Although I’m a downstater, Long Island, I would strongly recommend against moving to this liberal, dem, overtaxed, no gun rights for the average Joe, shithole. Unless you like freezing your ass off and shoveling cock deep show, I would think there are far better places for relocation. Nobody moves to NY. I cant wait to get out. Best of luck.

Spot on !

October 24, 2018, 12:11 AM

cas

If you do come, you won't be able to bring your handguns with you. You'll need to reside here, apply for a license (however long that takes in that county), then have them all transferred in.