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Here in Canada, we are rapidly approaching the vote for passing of Bill C-391. It details the repeal of our 'long-gun registry' that has consumed over $2 Billion dollars and failed to solve a single crime.


Our deepest thanks go out to bloggers activists on both sides of the border for maintaining constant pressure on this important issue.

Repeal of this law in Canada will be a significant blow to pro-gun control Democrats in the US who have met with, studied and cited Canadian gun control advocacy as a successful International model.

Our political climate is such here that our Liberal Party (a rabid version of a democrat)is at an all time low. There is a very strong chance that this will either pass now, or form a political poison pill in the upcoming election for those who vote against it. The latter case would provide a strong chance for a Conservative Government majority, and a much more favorable position to push through another flavor of the legislation irregardless.



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Gun registration an expensive failure

October 26, 6:32 AM
Cleveland Gun Rights Examiner Daniel White

While U.S. gun control advocates push the Obama administration to enact more stringent gun control measures and want to use the California ammunition registry as a blueprint for getting all guns registered, Canadian officials are having a tough time justifying their registry and may move away from it.

"It was a stupid idea in the first place and a ridiculous waste of money on an ongoing basis," said Canadian Taxpayers Federation director Kevin Gaudet of the 14-year registry scheme which reportedly costs hundreds of millions of dollars a year to maintain.

Opponents also point out that the expensive registry has had no effect on firearms deaths as noted in this recent letter to the editor submitted to the Winnipeg Free Press.

The homicide rate had fallen impressively before 2001, but has remained relatively stable since. In 1991, the homicide rate was 2.7 per 100,000; in 1996, the homicide rate was down to 2.1; and by 2000, it had slid to 1.8. By 2005, the rate had risen to 2.0.

Wendy Cukier, president of the Coalition for Gun Control, believes the registry should remain in place because it helps "enhance accountability and reduce the risk of weapons being misused or winding up in the wrong hands," despite the fact that it has failed to do either.

Instead, this waste of taxpayer dollars has been so full of errors and omissions it can't even be relied upon in court. Canada isn't the only country to be experiencing this problem, a recent article from Australia reported a Southern Australia computer glitch resulted in over twenty thousand firearms being reported as active in the registry when in fact they had already been destroyed. They, too, report little effectiveness of their registry and note that there are millions of unregistered guns in Australia.

Gun registries don't work and cannot be made to work. A criminal who is already barred from firearms ownership is not going to go down to his local police station to register his gun. A stolen gun used in a crime is only going to trace back to the last lawful owner, which will do nothing to solve the crime. Especially since stolen guns are almost always reported stolen anyway so the police already know who legally owned it last.

They are nothing more than a way to infringe upon the rights of law abiding gun owners while paving the road towards eventual confiscation. While Canada takes a long hard look at repealing their gun registry, we must be vigilant that one is not forced down our throats here. We already waste enough money on faulty government programs and don't need to add another.


You can watch a YouTube video regarding C-391 here, with a run down of some of the dirty pool that was used to attempt to kill it before it hit the voting floor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...A-D8&feature=related

Garry Breitkreuz is one of Canada's greatest Firearms rights advocates and is a currently sitting Member of Parliament

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You have my best wishes for swift passage and the utter collapse of the liberal party even if it does pass.




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You have my best wishes for swift passage and the utter collapse of the liberal party even if it does pass.


Thanks dude.

They were morally bankrupt years ago. I figure the utter collapse is inevitable.
 
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Good luck. I hope it passes.


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Best of luck. Passage would be great for you.


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I certainly hope the measure passes and the registry finds its way to oblivion, too.

One question, though - would the licensing requirement for long guns in the bill be a new one, or is one already in place in Canadian law?
 
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measure passes and the registry finds its way to oblivion, too.

One question, though - would the licensing requirement for long guns in the bill be a new one, or is one already in place in Canadian law?


Licensing would remain.

There is a lot of public support for it. Even within the shooting community. There are undoubtedly benefits to institutionalized promotion of gun safety. It is debatable if mandatory federal licensing is the best vehicle to deliver this. One fact for which there can be no doubt is that the legislative intent was never to facilitate safe access to the sport for all ages, nor growth of the shooting industry through subsidized government programs.

It was a deliberate embuggerance designed to make firearms ownership more trouble than it was worth for the average citizen.

But I'll not tackle the finer aspects of that that particular issue at this point.


All our focus is on the expensive, inaccurate and offensively intrusive registration component for long guns, and ensuring that it gets abolished.


The anti's are doing everything they can to cloud the public's understanding of licensing vs registration, and have pushed equally hard to advertise them as synonymous actions that will result in blood in the streets.

The introduction of C-391 is a great first step to counter Wendy Cukier and Gun Control Canada. Cukier is the Canadian equivalent of Rebbecca Peters of Gun Control Australia. She was instrumental in the creation of Federal Gun control Laws under the corrupt Liberal Government of her day. She has already lost her meal ticket. Now she appears to be in the middle of losing her reputation as well.

The usual suspects. The usual bag of tricks. But people here are fed up with their social experiments costing billions of dollars and providing only smoke and mirrors. I think that there will be a lot of International eyes on Canada with respect to where this goes over the next few weeks.

For our part, we are applying a lot of pressure to make this thing happen.

Above all, keep us in your prayers.
 
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Good luck... I hope you are successful!
 
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Thanks much.

Gaining Attention in US blogs now...

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# Monday, October 26, 2009
Quote of the day--Kevin Gaudet
By: Joe Huffman Monday, October 26, 2009 6:23:52 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights | Quote of the Day )

It was a stupid idea in the first place and a ridiculous waste of money on an ongoing basis.

Kevin Gaudet
Federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation on the gun registry in Canada.
October 26, 2009
Gun registry battle rages

[If the Canadians can regain some of their freedom it will be a good sign for us and others all over the world. It provides more data that freedom doesn't mean the sky is going to fall and it removes one more arrow from the quiver of the anti-freedom people that say things like (Wendy Cukier, president of the Coalition for Gun Control, from the same article):

"Without information about who owns guns and the guns they own, there is no effective control. Internationally, most countries licensing gun owners and registering firearms are moving to strengthen controls. This would be a huge step backwards."

Please also note that she doesn't say anything about making people safer--it's about control.--Joe]
 
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Thanks, Sprint, both for the info and adding an outstanding new word to my public policy vocabulary - 'embuggerance'! Big Grin
 
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Great Word!

That gem is going into my daily vocabulary.

Regarding the gun issue- I hope the "long gun registry" gets scrapped. Maybe someday guns will be to radioactive of an issue for those scumbag Liberal Pols to use as career building fodder north of the 49th parallel.
 
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As an expat from Saskatoon, I hope it passes! My PAL renewal is in the mail. Smile



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This is fantastic for you guys. Good luck!


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Vote goes today boys and girls...

The anti's are in a panic, and crying that the sky is falling to every news outlet that will listen.


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Countries all around the world are strengthening their gun laws. Last week, we saw the U.S. finally join the process of managing the small arms trade at the UN. How ironic, then, that Canada is threatening to scrap its registry of rifles and shotguns. Canada's legislation on firearms has been a model for other countries, frequently cited as an effective framework for protecting public safety. All this will be undermined if the registry is abolished.

Rebecca Peters, Director, IANSA (International Action Network on Small Arms), London, U.K.


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Today we celebrate the first step in taking our country back from International Socialist interests; win or lose.
 
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I understand that 18 opposition members voted FOR C-391.

This, sports fans, is an incredible upset from a minority government.

Celebration tonight. Will update as news rolls in. As we sit, it look like C-391 will pass with:

164y
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From those of you who have given their prayers and support, thank you.
 
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Well then, I'm going to pick up a few Big Rocks on the way home! Smile




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Thanks brother.

This did not simply expire.

It is being repealed by a free vote brought forward from a private member's bill. It is almost unheard of, but the execution has been brilliant.

We are VERY proud of the results of of efforts.



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The Canadian federal long-gun registry moved one step closer to being abolished as MPs voted Wednesday in the House of Commons to scrap the controversial program.

With support from 18 Liberals and New Democrats, the private member's bill passed second reading 164-137, and now goes to committee.

If passed, Bill C-391 would scrap the decade-old registry and destroy existing data within the system on about seven million shotguns and rifles.


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... and the crowd goes WILD!




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