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OK, I'll try to explain shortly what's happen in FRANCE ABOUT GUNS LAWS (with my poor english... sorry) :
Abstract : It's absolutely forbidden in France to have end carry a gun without a good professional reason (Police, Army, Secret Service, Cash carriers, customs services, etc.). Gun are classified in 2 categories : 1st and 4th. Holding and possession both is forbidden without special agreement. 1st category : War weapons (so, guns...), specially - guns and rifles built for the war - all automatic weapons (all calibers and destinations) - night riflescopes - all arms forecasted for army forces. For example, all 9mm para (my SIG p228 !) and .45 SA pistols are in 1st category. 4th category : A. Guns : - weapons non included in 1st category, - SA pistols with caliber lower than 7,65 mm (.32) and revolver don't fired rounds classified in 1st category (.357, .44, .40, .38sp, etc.) B. Rifles - Rifles <80cm length or barrel's length < 45 cm, - SA weapons can fire up to 3 rounds (3 ont the magazine, 1 into barrel), - Bolt-action rifles with box magazines may contain up to 10 cartridges - Shotguns So, if you are civilian guy (like me) and you want to hold these weapons and guns, you must be a shooting club's member and have an special agreement (your paper came back lower than 3 months if your are a cool and "mint" guy...). In France, it's not very "politically correct" to love guns and weapons. Our laws and History are not the same like in US. Old Europe is... old Europe ! DURA LEX, SED LEX. |
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Marmule,
Welcome to the forum. It is sad to here the gun laws there. Hang in there and talk to your friends and family about your love for the sport of shooting. One person at a time you will show them that normal people enjoy shooting. Let us know if you ever come visit America. I will take you out shooting (I think I have a gun that fits in every category). I know there are other members here that would take their European friends out for a range day too. The right for a person to arm them self speaks loudly on their freedom.... |
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It's a shame when the country that brought us the guillotine and the Marquis de Sade won't let folks have guns. Maybe its the old Revolution thing that has them worried.
Any, no matter what, they'll always be French Fries to me. |
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Very interesting information. Thanks for sharing.
(Your english sounded fine to me.)  Kevin Karma? Karma is just justice without the satisfaction. |
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Agreed! (Better than my French, certainly.  )~Tom The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good. - George Washington |
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Okay, you actually hit "Post Now" on this one? Where was your thinking? You should lose two post counts...maybe three.  ~Tom The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good. - George Washington |
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Well, well, I'don't know why my friend, the marquis de Sade, is on this post. Maybe a great shooter ?... About guillotine, I'm agree, it's certainly not the best French gift to american people... But, French fries are not better for health... So, in France, if it's difficult to obtain agreement for having "special" guns (9mm, .45, .357, etc.), it's easy to have bolt action rifles for hunting with licence or only speak to the Administrations. But, it's always very controlled. Our history is not founded like yours. Historicaly, you're pioneers with guns - and an OK Constitution ! - not us. It's common to think people with guns are more dangerous than others without... and France is a small country... In the middle west it's more esay to shoot on the fields... "Maybe its the old Revolution thing that has them worried." Ahah, sure ! Very difficult but interesting subject... DURA LEX, SED LEX. |
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Actually, I've never been to France, and even though I took it for 3 years in school, I can't even order snails. I have met a couple guys from GIGN and RAID when that unit was being stood up in the 80's. They seemed pretty cool and Manuhurin revolvers seemed to be as nice as any S&W.
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Je voudrais l'escargot. It's not about can, it's about why, you'd ever utter those words. I'd live in France before I'd live in the UK. At least in France you can own a shotgun and do some hunting without being a Scottish Lord. The French know more about freedom than the English do at this point in history. Vive la France! Maintenant, je vis au jour le jour. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope. |
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I'd go to France just for the cheese.
--- Grayguns P226R .357SIG -- P226 W.German -- 590A1 -- M4gery -- Ruger Mark III --- -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- |
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Go to France, only for cheese, if you want...
... but to get too a Mahurin MR73 revolver, "seemed to be as nice as any S&W" ! "Reliability and service life of the MR-73s, combined with the match-grade accuracy, also brings it to the worlds' best service handguns class, along with SIG P-210." (@ world.guns.ru) DURA LEX, SED LEX. |
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Because they're tasty? ---------- Courage is the complement of fear. A man who is fearless cannot be courageous. (He is also a fool.) -- R.A.H. |
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Ahem. I live in England... I have a shotgun... and eighteen other firearms, but... I'm not a Scottish lord. I guess that you, living in America, must be a cowboy with a machine gun. After all, we have seen you in the movies and you are ALL cowboys and you ALL have machine guns, right? Don't talk such bullshirt. tac |
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No way. I couldn't stand wearing the stupid hat and boots. --- Grayguns P226R .357SIG -- P226 W.German -- 590A1 -- M4gery -- Ruger Mark III --- -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- |
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I live in Tucson Arizona and we all have machineguns - MP40, Sten, M16, AK47, M2, etc. We buy them at Walmart and Kmart. We have shootouts in shopping malls each weekend. When our machineguns get dirty, we just sell 'em to the Mexican drug lords and buy new machineguns. Now there's some real bullshirt, tac! ******* "If the population of Eastern Europe were as well armed as the average American, the Nazis would have lost much of their military capacity attempting to implement the Holocaust." -- Clayton Cramer, "Firing Back." |
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J'etudiais en France pendant les '80's. Je n'ai pas tas d'opinion des Francais en ce qui concerne les armes, mais je sais que Bretagne (particulierement l'ouest) soit la partie de la France la plus belle de la pays, d'apres moi. Tiens, je me souviens une exposition a' Tours ou' on pourrait gagner les pistolets en jouant les jeux de chance. Le pistolets et les canards (oui, il y avait des personnes qui portaient les canards autour de l'exposition) Est-ce que c'est vrai qu'on peut gagner les arms a l'exposition? __________________________ "To be unarmed is to be despised." --Niccolo Machiavelli |
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