Cali gov just signed a bunch of firearms bills including one that requires background checks for ammo. Of course he does not sign any they will help crime rates and gun violence.
Yeah, good Lord, those are terrible. My sympathies to our brethren on the left coast.
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Also illegal to possess >10 rd mags. Before it was only illegal to buy, sell, manufacture, import, lend, give, but not possess. So you could have just said, "I found these, officer, just happened to fit my gun".
"Here are the measures that Gov. Jerry Brown announced Friday that he has signed:
The new laws would take effect in January 2017.
New California gun laws
Most of this looks very similar to new yorks safe act regulations passed a few years ago. A total mess. The state originally planned to use the federal nics system to background check the ammo purchases, but the Feds said no way. They have spent a ton of money to develop a workable system but still have nothing up and running yet.
Happy to report due to this and other issues ( cost of living, taxes etc) as of today I am now no longer a New York resident!
well, if you are required to present ID and get a check for ammo purchases..they must be tracking the amount of ammo actually in your possession..
got a special number to report when you used said ammo? maybe call the gov's office...or a simple postcard... " purchased 100 rounds...went to range - shot same "
I get the intent of the No magazine over 10 rounds rule but I'm confused about the fact that when you bought them they were legal. So are they going to pay you what you paid for these magazines? I assume not so should you be selling them on GB to people in states where they are still legal or shipping them to family members that live in another state where they are still legal.
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for the no "loaning" of guns to other than family. What happens to ranges like Target Masters who rent guns?
I really feel sorry for my friends down there. I know one guy who bought a crapload of standard capacity 92FS mags in the early 90's when they could still be bought down there. A lifetime supply. What is he to do now?
it's a damn shame.
That's similar to the IL FOID card, required to own a firearm and buy ammo:
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Simple. Not comply. No way would I ever turn in or get rid of my magazines. No way. Freakin' commie state.
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"In statements, the National Rifle Association and other gun rights groups condemned the new laws as 'draconian' and 'Stalin-esque', even suggesting that Californian residents consider disobeying them."...
New California gun laws
It looks like it may have gotten to that point.
My opinion: very very very few magazines will be turned in. Very few.
However, I think the AW registration law will see significant compliance. Sure, there will be a large number of people who won't comply (just like the last one), but, a lot will register their guns. At least the newer ones with bullet buttons, and certainly most of the ones purchased since Jan 1 2014 (when long gun registration went live). Why the compliance? The prevailing opinion is that if my gun will be a registered "assault weapon" per the state than I can legally take the stupid billet button out and use it as designed". Again, any gun purchased since 2014 began is already registered, so there is nothing to lose with those (in the eyes of many).
That's always been a tough balance for me. I grew up with a very strict "obey the law" mindset. Doing anything that is against the law has always bothered me.
I think I'd be too stressed to keep anything in the house that's illegal. No matter how dumb the law. I guess this is why they say gun control only affects the law abiding.
When you have PDs and Sheriff offices openly saying that they will not enforce an unconstitutional law, you know how bad the law is.
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I grew up in California but moved away in 1990. State gun laws sucked at that point-- 14 day waiting period on handgun purchases, and NFA has always been a no-go-- but have gotten progressively worse since then.
I believe in the rule of law and the Constitution with all its mechanisms. As a career LEO, I obey the precepts of the courts (provided they're not clearly unconstitutional) and enforce the laws enacted by the legislature (provided they're not clearly unconstitutional.) That's what you pay me to do. Like radioman, obeying the law is second nature to me.
Because of geography-- I don't work California and likely never will-- I will thankfully not have to consider where the margins of my duty to uphold the Constitution overlap my obligation to obey lawfully-enacted statutes, even diaper stains such as this one.
Honestly, I think this would have me in the "openly defiant" group. Confiscation isn't in my DNA.
I've got a question for the legal eagles reading this...
Could being required to register be seen as a violation of one's 5th Amendment rights?
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I have a question for people that are in the know about what's going on. If magazines over 10 rounds are going to be illegal, how is Hollywood going to make all them shoot em up movies?
In previous laws they made specific exceptions for weaponry used in movie-making.
Permits exist for such endeavors... Same for machine guns, short barrel shotguns/rifles, supressors, yada yada yada. I've often thought about turning in the application for such devices but decided I'd be better off throwing the application fee in the fireplace.
There's always an exception for Hollywood, celebrities, athletes...and themselves.
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